November 15, 2008

You got somethin' to say?


Posted by Jim Treacher at November 15, 2008 01:16 PM

No, not really.

Posted by: Noam Notkidding at November 15, 2008 01:20 PM

When all around you are doing the Spicoli. . .

Posted by: Wind Rider at November 15, 2008 01:21 PM

"Those who can't bomb, teach. Those who can't teach, teach Obama."

I thought this succinct observation should have been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. My gawd, man, it's effin' brilliant.

Otherwise, just contemplating the 50 degree change in weather that's happening and wondering if Al Gore is in town...

Posted by: Joan of Argghh! at November 15, 2008 01:28 PM

"My gawd, man, it's effin' brilliant."

Pass it on!

Posted by: Treach at November 15, 2008 01:33 PM

Bumper Sticker idea (not mine own, unfortunately):

Question Authority.

They Say You're Supposed To


Posted by: warbaby at November 15, 2008 02:13 PM

Or how about:

Champion Authority

Posted by: Treach at November 15, 2008 02:18 PM

Idealogues begin with argument and reason. When that isn't effective enough, they follow with lies and emotion. They accuse the unconvinced of being too dumb or racist to see the light. Next is winning elected power, which justifies a few untruths in order to do so much good. Dissent is patriotic before they are in power, but dissent opposes the common good after they are in power.

Around 1967 at the University of Chicago, I was talking to one of the radical guys in my dormitory. He argued that only a radical change in government would bring about a better society. I disagreed.

He said that his movement would become stronger, and eventually I would agree with him. I asked, what if I didn't agree with him, even later? He flashed anger and told me that if I didn't agree on my own, he would make me agree. I saw that as the end of the discussion.

See also "Leading the People"

Posted by: Andrew Garland at November 15, 2008 03:03 PM

That whole "submit to our will" thing: I don't know about that. That factor will become more important as the Obamatons consolidate power, I think, but right now it's a sidelight.

For now, the left is like the yappy little mutt who has caught a car. It continues to yap, because it doesn't know how to do anything else. Cavett yaps more annoyingly than most, because he's been around long enough to know that as the reality of our brave new Hopeychangey world sets in, he's going to be completely irrelevant.

Old washed up lefty has-beens are a dime a dozen, and he knows it. Better yap while the yappin's good.

Posted by: Pavel at November 15, 2008 03:17 PM

Something to say? Mmm yes.

You're funny.

Posted by: saint at November 15, 2008 03:29 PM

"That factor will become more important as the Obamatons consolidate power, I think, but right now it's a sidelight."

It's the light on the front of the oncoming train.

saint: Thanks!

Posted by: Treach at November 15, 2008 03:35 PM

Joanie, you'd know if Gore was in town...all the Twinkies would spontaneously disappear and the state would have a decided north-east tilt.


Warbaby/Treach: For the next four years (at least) I'm going to go with LAMPOON AUTHORITY. It'll be fun.

Posted by: Liberty Girl at November 15, 2008 03:56 PM

Dissent is patriotic. Or so they used to say, before they seized power...

Posted by: WasatchMan at November 15, 2008 04:33 PM

I'm still hoping some young journalist out there is looking to be the next Woodward or Bernstein.

Posted by: Slublog at November 15, 2008 05:19 PM

...or Galileo.

Posted by: Treach at November 15, 2008 05:30 PM

Speak Truth to Authority

Posted by: fugmeister at November 15, 2008 05:36 PM

I got plenty to say, but nobody's listening.

Even my imaginary friend told me to STFU.

Posted by: McGehee at November 15, 2008 06:33 PM

I'm seriously disturbed by this Nebraska problem of abandoned children.

Call me judgemental, but how in the HELL can legislators "forget" to limit the law to babies?

Posted by: fireweed at November 15, 2008 06:45 PM

They want you to submit to their will. It's not enough to win if there are still those who oppose them. They want to indoctrinate into you the one word that Obama propagandist Shepard Fairey has made a fortune putting on merchandise: Obey.

They are fascists. And now they're in power. And we'd better pay attention.
Posted by Jim Treacher at November 15, 2008 12:21 PM

Heh... for some reason that reminded me of this bit of dialogue from an episode of DS9:

Gul Dukat: "A true victory is to make your enemy see they were wrong to oppose you in the first place. To force them to acknowledge your greatness."
Weyoun: "Then you kill them?"
Gul Dukat: "...Only if it's necessary."

Posted by: Watcher at November 15, 2008 07:29 PM

Just one quick thing to say here...which is more productive: feeding the trolls on HotAir, or answering e-mail from people who actually agree with you? I know one's infinitely more satisfying, but still...

Posted by: snowed in at November 15, 2008 08:16 PM

Watching Treach word duel with some of the trolls on hotair reminds me of the Black Knight scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Posted by: Dave C at November 15, 2008 08:23 PM

There's more to life than being productive. Relax, live a little!

(But I'm sorry I didn't answer your e-mail. Better?)

Posted by: Treach at November 15, 2008 10:26 PM

Wasatchman is on the right track but the new bumpersticker should be "Dissent was patriotic."

Like how it used to be brave to compare the president to a monkey and now it's racist.

Posted by: Sortelli at November 16, 2008 12:57 AM

"The Law is for your enemies."

Saw that on the back of Obama's car.

Posted by: Joan of Argghh! at November 16, 2008 07:35 AM


In re Galileo:

After the verdict was read finding him guilty of heresy for having had the temerity to maintain that the Earth revolved around the Sun, he is reputed to have muttered "Eppur, si muove."

Which means "Nevertheless, it moves."

Thanks for reminding us, as always.


Posted by: warbaby at November 16, 2008 08:21 AM

Your strawman leftie didn't use nearly enough exclamation points. And F-bombs.

Posted by: INCITEmarsh at November 16, 2008 11:20 AM

Nice photo of Clinton with Palin. It looks like he's pitching a tent with his hands. I love body language.

Posted by: Vermont Neighbor at November 16, 2008 12:01 PM

NOW I know why Tina Fey didn't want to appear side by side with Sarah Palin on SNL.

Posted by: Dave C at November 16, 2008 08:44 PM


Well, yes.

Incidentally, whoever does Tina Fey's makeup for SNL and 30 Rock gets my vote for an Emmy right now, 'cos that photo of her with Sarah Palin makes Ms. Fey look like the love child of Richie Cunningham and Arthur Fonzarelli.

Posted by: snowed in at November 16, 2008 08:59 PM

Anybody know of any companies that manufacture armbands? Because I'm thinking that might be a good investment sometime in the near future.

Posted by: Sean M. at November 16, 2008 11:46 PM

Treacher, you're starting to get as shrill, simplistic, and reductive as one of those hit-and-run HuffPo twits you used to make fun of. Like in that video up top now, you honestly think Obama was calling for a civilian security force with ICBMs, nuclear subs, and aircraft carriers? I did read the full context, he's clearly calling for a domestic volunteer corps that builds up national security in ways that are different but equally important to what the military provides. For instance, he's asking for volunteers to develop renewable energy-- i.e. help with his plan to get us off Middle Eastern oil which makes us dependent on Salafist Wahaabists. The military can't do that, but civilians can, and it's an important part of national security.

Seriously dude, before you hit Publish, transpose every mention of "Obama" for "Bush" and wonder if it's the kind of overreach you used to laugh at a few years ago.

Posted by: WJA at November 17, 2008 01:21 AM

Speaking of bumperstickers, saw a humdinger in my neighborhood this morning when we were out walking the dogs.

"Bombs may kill terrorists, but only Love kills terrorism"

I started looking around for Madeleine Albright.

Posted by: Jeff H. at November 17, 2008 02:07 AM

@ WJA: "Clearly"?

Wonders to self: Why does some civilian national security force need to be "just as well powerful, just as strong, just as well funded" as the military?

Just as *powerful*? What the heck are these volunteers going to be doing?

Posted by: fireweednectar at November 17, 2008 03:45 AM

Oh hey guys wats going on in this thread?

Posted by: AndrewGurn at November 17, 2008 06:43 AM


"Like in that video up top now, you honestly think Obama was calling for a civilian security force with ICBMs, nuclear subs, and aircraft carriers?"

I can only go by his own words, dude. When he says "as powerful and well-funded as our military," I assume he means he wants it to be as powerful and well-funded as our military. Or he wants somebody to think he wants that. If judging him by his own words is "overreach," then I guess I'm just shrill. But now you're here to be the sensible one.

Posted by: Treach at November 17, 2008 06:50 AM